It has been almost two weeks since I released a report exposing Geoffrey Grider of Now The End Begins and his very poor behavior and acts – including years of documented sexual immorality, adultery and evil concupiscence (with police reports); including dishonest and shady business tactics, with hundreds of thousands of debt he owes to the government; and with the most recent blot against his name being he has covered-up the existence of his firstborn daughter for over 34 years.
You can read-up on these reports below:
Grider initially responded to my report last August by doubling-down on his actions, showing absolutely no remorse and crying crocodile tears, and threatened to sue me. Most of his audience and donor base did not tolerate his answers, and when they pressed him for answers he began to block them all. Grider’s botched response ultimately was his undoing as it sent thousands more to see my article and thus resulted in an exodus from his site.
This time around Grider has decided to stay completely quiet, though many have made me aware he is blocking all attempts by people asking questions.
A number of Baptist pastors have come to his defense, knowing full well and good the evidence, but still decided to cover for Grider. Now, one of them has decided to respond to the reports.
This response comes the way of Roy Bell of Old School Bible Baptist Ministries. Howbeit, just as I said last time when I directly responded to Grider, so say I now again: “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.” -William Shakespeare.
Indeed, as this “response” was nothing short of pure embarrassment. The video was titled, “GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY! ANOTHER LOW T SOY BOY TRIES TO ATTACK BIBLE BELIEVERS.”
For starters, he got the wrong guy in the video. Here is a picture of the thumbnail:
Ugh, that’s not me… That’s Caleb Corneloup, a man from Australia who runs a YouTube channel called “iThink Biblically;” and that picture Bell showed was from a report I did exposing Caleb for trying to show supposed “errors” in the KJB, for which I answered in detail, and even quoted Peter S. Ruckman a couple of times, for which Corneloup eventually deleted the video.
And yet Bell is so wise in his own conceits and consumed in his own hastiness and mischief, he could not even be bothered to do his own research. And yet he wants to call me a “low T[estosterone] soyboy.” As I said, “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.”
Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
But that’s basically his “response” in a nutshell, and cannot even be taken seriously.
But, as I was writing this post he decided to delete it. But that’s okay, you can watch an archived copy of it below:
Before Bell deleted it this morning, I saw a couple of individuals pointing out that he got the wrong guy, which is probably why he deleted the video. Notwithstanding there were plenty of people egging him on, people who never read my articles for themselves, and some were even convinced that my name was actually Caleb!
But that did not stop Grider from commenting and approving his words.
However, right before I was going to publish this Bell made a new video clarifying the mix-up and put a correct picture of me in the video, but still proceeds to call myself and Bryan Denlinger of King James Video Ministries “Low T Soyboys.” He still did not make any real attempt to address any of the contents of the aforementioned articles.
Before I get into what little there is to respond to, I have republished the section on Bell from my most recent article on Grider so you can get some better context as to who this Roy Bell fellow is:
Roy Bell of Old School Bible Baptist Ministries is another staunch supporter of NTEB. According to his website, “Brother Roy was the pastor of the Christian church at Nevada’s largest prison during his years of incarceration and now brings his no nonsense style of plain preaching to a wider congregation. Brother Roy’s message is simple: Jesus is real and The Bible is true, period. Brother Roy serves the Lord at Bible Baptist Church in Las Vegas, Nevada.”
One day after my article dropped rebuking Grider, Bell was a guest on Grider’s podcast to discuss his testimony and prison ministry. Bell often says in jest that he is just an “old jailbird from the slammer” in his videos and sermons.
In an interview with false prophet Robert Breaker – another graduate of PBI – Bell described his testimony and how he got into ministry. He recounted that he grew up in a Christless home and was basically an atheist, who was a “hardcore drug addict and, and a criminal,” Bell said. “And by the time I got around my 21st birthday, I was on the run from the law, had spent a bunch of time and [was in] reform school,” and got around bike gangs and Mexican drug dealers. Eventually one of those gang leaders received the Lord and preached to Bell and his crowd, which he says caused him to want salvation also. He would later attend and graduate from Hyles Anderson College (HAC) in Hammond, Indiana.
HAC has an unfortunate reputation for producing and covering up for blatant sexual misconduct, adultery and molestation, among other things, and has been thoroughly documented throughout the years by multiple eyewitness accounts, personal testimonies, and public reports documenting the coverups.
But, in his words, “Then some things happened. I got discouraged and I got my eyes off the Lord. […] I ran from God, and I went back to Las Vegas and God had a big fish prepared for me, actually a few of them, and they’re called state penitentiaries. [I] ended up spending 30 years of my life in state penitentiaries because I ran from God, and I didn’t want to do what God wanted me to do.” Bell said throughout these years he was convicted of “twelve felony convictions, multiple armed robberies, two habitual criminal enhancements, and two felony prison breaks.”
Eventually Bell would become chaplain assistant at High Desert State Prison in Las Vegas, serving out his life sentence. During his time in prison Bell was a pen-pal with Peter Ruckman. Then eventually in 2020 due to complications with Covid-19 in the state, Bell was granted lifetime parole on good behavior and is now preaching in many IFB churches.
Bell has since hasted to ingratiate himself with many in the Ruckman-IFB circles, including Grider. Bell was a keynote speaker earlier this year at Grider’s annual camp meeting that began on May 17th through the 19th, where he would be seen street preaching; which he and Grider claim that in the span of a little more than an hour they led seven people to salvation, and preached a sermon on the final day.
Unfortunately, Mr. Bell is fully aware of the issues surrounding Mr. Grider. A former follower of NTEB contacted Bell via his website and was asked if knew about the problems surrounding Geoffrey. In a screenshot provided to The WinePress, not only does Bell know about the allegations, he totally defends it.
I saw the Winepress hit piece on him. I also saw it’s hit piece on Dr. Ruckman, so you know how much credibility I give that rag. I always give the man of God the benefit of the doubt. Dr. Bill Grady addressed those things last year when he preached the camp meeting. I give Dr. Bill Grady, my personal friend, full credibility. People always slinging mud at me. Plenty to sling too! It will all get sorted out at the Judgement Seat of Christ. Thank-you for your concerns. Brother Roy. Phil. 1:6Bell wrote in response to the question
So that’s Roy Bell for you; and he has made it clear that he “always give[s] the man of God the benefit of the doubt.” In other words, a pastor (in his little cult of friends) could be totally wrong and out of line, and no matter what he will defend him. And yet he claims *I* am the one “attacking” so-called “KJV Bible Believers.” YOU, Bell, and all your other arrogant losers are nothing of the sort.
As I said, there really is not much to respond to in his video. If you want to waste thirteen minutes and thirteen seconds of your time then knock yourself out. But I do want to show the utter COWARDICE of these people. Look at this:
You see that? He shows only part of the headline, snipping off the part where the rest of it says “- Illegitimate Daughter Speaks Out After Decades Of Neglect, As Pastors Run To Defend Him.” That’s the kind of “man” we are dealing with. This little bad attitude Baptist would not dare to show the whole headline, because it would reveal why I did the reports in the first place; but then he tries to spin it as if I am attacking him for no real reason other than I “hate” so-called “Bible believers.”
Proverbs 18:17 He that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him.
The whole video he does not even try to refute the evidence (because it’s indefensible), for both my piece on Grider, and the other one where I show irrefutable evidence that Peter Ruckman exposed and rebuked the likes of Robert Breaker, by name behind the pulpit, for twisting and wresting the scriptures in Romans 10 to say that a man does not need to pray in order to receive the Lord’s salvation.
Instead, in adolescent fashion, “Mr. Tough Guy” challenged me to a boxing match in his backyard. Never mind the part where it says the man in an office of a bishop is not to be charged as a “brawler” (1 Timothy 3:1-7); but who cares about standards at this point, right? ‘Hurr durr, look at me, I’m an Innipendent Funnymental Bad Attitude Boogaloo Baptist! I believe the Bible, I just don’t practice any of it!’ And yet, according to him in his video, I am a “pious, self-righteous, pharisaical guy.”
And the whole time it’s almost as if he reveled and took pride in his past, like he wears it as a badge of honor of something.
1 Corinthians 4:18 Now some are puffed up, as though I would not come to you. [19] But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord will, and will know, not the speech of them which are puffed up, but the power. [20] For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power. [21] What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?
These blowtards are nothing but all talk: all bark, no bite. They say they believe all this stuff; they say they believe and trust the KJB, but they only follow the parts that they want to when it suits them. It’s a business, that’s all that it is for these people, as are the rest of 99.99% of so-called professing Christianity today.
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. [4] For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. [12] But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. [13] For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. [14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [15] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
As far as I am concerned, Bell just traded one set of crimes for another. He, like all the rest of his little fraternal possie are unregenerated frauds “that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness,” and, “O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up” (Proverbs 30:13-14). And his response, or whatever that was, was just pure embarrassment.
John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. [40] And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? [41] Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
[7] Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock? [8] Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also? [9] For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? [10] Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope. (1 Corinthians 9:7-10).
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What a joke; he couldn’t prove that you or Bryan are teaching false teachings if ya were or not. Like deny the trinity, he has no proof, and even Ruckman knew that God was part of the Godhead, body, soul and spirit. Saying someone is a heretic and showing no proof: shows they are the heretic!!
What a tool. Downright COWARDLY. I noticed right off the bat that he cut the article title in that video too. He’s a filthy little liar, and he addressed NONE of the allegations against Grider. Typical BAPTIST trash. Roy is an unsaved devil, all there is to it.
He hid my comment on his video LOL! What a coward.
Most of these types are. It’s pretty much a common trait with opportunistic criminals and predators. They target the weaker people that won’t present a challenge.
Funny how the people who always flex their manliness are some of the biggest cowards around.
Overcompensating because deep down, to the core, they feel inferior and weak. Only Jesus Christ can fill that black hole.
Anthony, he must of gone to the ‘Grider School’ on censoring!
Jacob Thompson does not / has not attacked or maligned true authentic King James Bible believers. Nor has Bryan Delinger. What these men have done is . . . expose the wolves in the pulpit that are not qualified by biblical standards, to be there in the first place.
Bryan and Jacob carefully read The Bible and in kindness, correct errant teachings – i.e., adding to or subtracting from what The Bible actually says – The Godhead, for instance, versus Trinity, which is not in The Bible – anywhere.
Roy Bell citing those as examples exemplifies his lack of clear understanding and further validates the need for men like Jacob Thompson and Bryan Delinger to continue their stellar work.
Thank you!
Amen!
Amen Born Again!
Let me add, I don’t want a sexual predator, ex con with a lengthy rap sheet, teaching or preaching to me.
i.e., Geoffrey Scott Grider’s history of sexting his genitals to strangers, Roy Bell’s history of being a thief.
Just to address that, I only brought up his rap sheet just to show much of a scuzzball he is in context of the other things against him. I am not a fan of throwing people’s past lives in their faces, but in light of what he is defending and teaching now I think it’s more than appropriate.
Jacob, when one is unrepentant, doesn’t turn away, and actively does those things while they are teaching / preaching – it warrants addressing. Their congregants should know.
Amen to that !
More importantly he is an openly unrepentant, remarried, adulterer. He is therefore disqualified from any position of Christian authority or teaching . Full stop.
Hi Quatermain!
No doubt, his sins are before him, and for all to see.
Obviously he only cares about money and not this:
Proverbs 22:1 A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold. ( he would rather have the silver and gold rather than a good name. )
Ecclesiastes 7:1 A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one’s birth.
God Bless You Quatermain!
Idiots tend to skip over all the bible verses that expose them and call out their own lies.
Eg: Job 5:13 He taketh the wise in their own craftiness: and the counsel of the froward is carried headlong.
When the Lord blesses the works of truth, the dogs come howling in few because their teeth are made dull from their sins and they know they are no match for the sword wielder.
PRAISE THE LORD & GLORY TO GOD!
GREAT ARTICLE JACOB!
The LORD has where his sword against these workers of iniquity.
Their judgement is JUST!
Great verse. Thanks for the support.
I agree with your assessment that unfortunately, 99.99% of professing Christians are not really saved. I’ve been getting more and more skeptical throughout the years as I’ve told you before, based on my own experiences dealing with “brethren” online and face to face where I am. Most of these types always ignore scripture.
I laughed out loud at first with Bell’s sheer stupidity and immaturity with those posts. Then it dawned on me that this is something that the secular world sees and most who might have been thinking about salvation would be deterred by these evil people, including my family. They think Christianity is a circus.
Reminded me about another devil, Martin Richling. But yeah, this is the manner of beasts we are dealing with.
1 Corinthians 15:32-33
32 If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.
That’s why I hate these types of reports and why I seldom do them just because, like you said, people see this and think what a clown show all of this is, and I can’t say I blame them.
Actually, I was going to add a clarification before you replied,—that I’m not saying this issue is the only reason why people don’t want to be saved.
Lost people still have that God-given conscience and freedom to choose. Ultimately, if a person dies and goes to hell, it’s his fault alone. These clowns are only part of the devil’s trick.
I am all for exposing these wicked people because it helps brethren to be warned, and also as a teaching tool for newly-saved Christians on how to spot them.
Sorry brother, my fault for the mix up. Sometimes I can’t think to put in all the details that I mean to in one fell swoop.
Thankfully, the power of the Lord to save & bring to life a man who is dead in his sins far exceeds the power of the clowns putting on a show that might deter a lost man. Praise the Lord!
“Lost people still have that God-given conscience and freedom to choose.”
Until they don’t.
1TIMOTHY 4:2
That’s from Nat
Anonymous,
1 Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
If you include verse 1 for context, it’s their own fault still. Who gave heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils that resulted in a seared conscience? Themselves.
Joh 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
Pro 1:24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
Pro 1:25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
Pro 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
Pro 1:27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
Pro 1:28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
Pro 1:29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
Pro 1:30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
Pro 1:31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
Pro 1:32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
Pro 1:33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
Woe to them who’ve had their conscience seared. Yes, it’s their fault. They didn’t heed the Holy Spirit’s warnings.
Yeah, sometimes the scriptures can be rough when it comes to our own families, especially parents that changed our diapers, calmed our fevers and protected us while we were helpless children; to see that they refuse to open their eyes, to not choose the fear of the Lord, and are on their way to hell, but it’s absolute truth. And God is perfect, always.
We’re just a bunch of wicked sinners who thankfully got saved. And at the end, we’ll shed no more tears for these things:
Rev_21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
We need an edit button in the comments section pls lol
I concur on edit button!!
I double post accidentally or don’t reply to the correct person.
Amen! Mine are always in need of editing.
There is something really off about this Roy guy. In one of the videos of him “street preaching”, I get the sense he wants all eyes on him, and I don’t mean him with a capital H! I come from a long line of blue collar workers. I’d like to see either of these hot dogs try to swing a hammer 8+ hours a day, in extreme heat or cold. If these guys want to emulate Jesus, I suggest they get a job pounding nails! As we know, Jesus was a carpenter.
1 Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
It’s a numbers game for them. Feeds their pride and makes them a good income.
Hi Nat!
I would love them to spend just one month underway on a nuclear attack sub preparing by drilling for an ORSE or TRE. They could not handle it, and their narcissisms would have the crew “pinging” ( massively picking ) on them because of such. They have to be the center of attention and adoration, and wanting money given to them because of such. I love manual labor, but my back and COPD and a couple of other things took that from me, but I am still happy and content knowing that I know The Lord Jesus Christ, and soon all of us will meet in that Glorious Cloud Meeting.
Sadly: many will miss that muster, and will be begging The Lord to take them too.
Salvation now is completely free, after the Rapture it will be at the cost of their heads to gain eternal life. There will no fence sitters in the Tribulation as God will remove it, and one will either be in The Lord’s Camp or the devils, no in between.
God Bless You Nat!
Hi Ron!! God bless you and Nancy too! And, Caleb was it? Yes, these earthly bodies wear out. A friend’s Mom used to say, “If I’d known I was going to live this long, I would’ve taken better care of myself.” My Dad was a General Contractor. He was replacing a door in the church rectory. The Secretary asked my Dad, “Father wants to know if you’d like to donate your services.” My Dad replied, “Who are you cooking that STEAK for?”. She replied, “Father such n so”. My Dad replied, “Tell him I’ll send my bill.” No flies on my Pop! He had 5 children he had to feed and a steak was a very rare thing. Good to hear from you Ron!!
Hi Anon!
Yes that is the family at home. Both my oldest sons are married, and we will become grandparents. Yes your Dad, and an RCC Father looking for a freebie, sounds like GG pandering for free money every chance he gets.
LOL! Good to hear from you too, even if I do not know who you are.
Soon we shall meet face to face, we are like Noah the Ark was nearing completion, and then the animals had to enter it and that proof positive the rains were coming. The first time no blood was shed, but this time coming up will be a flood of blood. See you SOON!
God Bless You ANON!
It’s Nat Ron. Keep forgetting to add my name. Old-timers setting in, lol. My husband thought for years it was pronounced “old-timers” instead of “alzheimers”.
That guy can spin better than a politician! He deliberately cut off the part of your story about Kristie to fit his narrative.
So very odd how Bell mispronounces the name of his “very good friend”, JOFF-rey. Hmmmm.
Hi Neil,
“Lost people still have that God-given conscience and freedom to choose.”
Until they don’t.
1TIMOTHY 4:2
Nat, My reply is located above, addressed to Anonymous.
Got it! This website is persnikety.
After laughing out loud about Bell showing a picture of someone who is not even Jacob, I caught SEVERAL things about Bell’s video that I would like to address. However, I’m still at work so look for a comment from me later.
LOL. WHAT A JOKE!!! What a poor way to “defend” his friend!!
Romans Road To Salvation – Traditional Method – (KJV) The ROMANS ROAD … is a roadway you can walk. It is an assortment of New Testament Bible verses from the book of Romans. If you walk down this path, you will end up having insight into how to be saved.
Admit That You Are A Sinner.
Romans 3:10 : As it is written, “There is none righteous, no, not one:”
Romans 3:23 : “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God;”
Romans 5:12 : “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
Sin Has An Ending … It Results In Death.
Romans 6:23a : “For the wages of sin is death;”
We all owe this wage of spiritual death. Realize That God Loves You!
Romans 5:8 : “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
When Jesus died on the cross, He paid sin’s penalty.
Salvation Is A Free Gift From God To You!
Romans 6:23b : “… but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
You can’t earn this gift. You must ask and receive it. You Must Ask God To Forgive You And Save You.
Romans 10:9-10 : “That is thou shalt confess mouth the Lord Jesus , and shalt believe with thy in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
Like Any Gift It Must Be Received!
Romans 10:13 : “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
The ABC’s Of Salvation.
1 ADMIT to God that you are a sinner.
2. BELIEVE in Jesus Christ as God’s Son.
3. CONFESS your faith in Jesus Christ as Savior & Lord.
What To Pray To Receive Christ! Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner and need your forgiveness. I believe that Jesus died for my sins. I want to turn from my sins and ask Jesus Christ to come into my heart and life as my personal Savior. I want to trust and follow You as Lord and Savior. Amen.
A lot of people don’t know how to put things into words to pray, so I believe if they say it with all there heart, then they are saved! But, if they want to pray their own prayer, GO FOR IT! It least they are saying in their heart that they know they’ve sinned and need a Saviour.
For GG and RB to come out and say they don’t need to really pray, confess, repent, is just plain wrong.
Sounds to me that GG and RB dont’ believe this. JUST BELIEVE and GO ABOUT YOUR MERRY WAY is what it sounds like. No Prayer, No Confession, No Repentance, No Acceptance……just believe.
I know I believe that you need to realize your a SINNER and you need to CONFESS. That’s while I love the ROMANS ROAD.
Romans Road To Salvation –The ROMANS ROAD … is a roadway you can walk. It is an assortment of New Testament Bible verses from the book of Romans. If you walk down this path, you will end up having insight into how to be saved. Admit That You Are A Sinner. Romans 3:10 : As it is written, “There is none righteous, no, not one:” Romans 3:23 : “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God;” Romans 5:12 : “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” Sin Has An Ending … It Results In Death. Romans 6:23a : “For the wages of sin is death;” We all owe this wage of spiritual death. Realize That God Loves You! Romans 5:8 : “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” When Jesus died on the cross, He paid sin’s penalty. Salvation Is A Free Gift From God To You! Romans 6:23b : “… but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” You can’t earn this gift. You must ask and receive it. You Must Ask God To Forgive You And Save You. Romans 10:9-10 : “That is thou shalt confess mouth the Lord Jesus , and shalt believe with thy in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Like Any Gift It Must Be Received! Romans 10:13 : “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” The ABC’s Of Salvation. 1 ADMIT to God that you are a sinner. 2. BELIEVE in Jesus Christ as God’s Son. 3. CONFESS your faith in Jesus Christ as Savior & Lord. What To Pray To Receive Christ! Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner and need your forgiveness. I believe that Jesus died for my sins. I want to turn from my sins and ask Jesus Christ to come into my heart and life as my personal Savior. I want to trust and follow You as Lord and Savior. Amen.
I use this to help me show people in the Bible their need for a Saviour.
Praying what’s on the card is optional. They can pray their own prayer or if they don’t know what to say, it helps to have it.
Hi SB2!
God Bless You for posting all of that on Salvation!
Sounds to me that GG and RB dont’ believe this. JUST BELIEVE and GO ABOUT YOUR MERRY WAY is what it sounds like. No Prayer, No Confession, No Repentance, No Acceptance……just believe.
I know I believe that you need to realize your a SINNER and you need to CONFESS. That’s while I love the ROMANS ROAD.
Romans Road To Salvation –The ROMANS ROAD … is a roadway you can walk. It is an assortment of New Testament Bible verses from the book of Romans. If you walk down this path, you will end up having insight into how to be saved. Admit That You Are A Sinner. Romans 3:10 : As it is written, “There is none righteous, no, not one:” Romans 3:23 : “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God;” Romans 5:12 : “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” Sin Has An Ending … It Results In Death. Romans 6:23a : “For the wages of sin is death;” We all owe this wage of spiritual death. Realize That God Loves You! Romans 5:8 : “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” When Jesus died on the cross, He paid sin’s penalty. Salvation Is A Free Gift From God To You! Romans 6:23b : “… but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” You can’t earn this gift. You must ask and receive it. You Must Ask God To Forgive You And Save You. Romans 10:9-10 : “That is thou shalt confess mouth the Lord Jesus , and shalt believe with thy in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Like Any Gift It Must Be Received! Romans 10:13 : “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” The ABC’s Of Salvation. 1 ADMIT to God that you are a sinner. 2. BELIEVE in Jesus Christ as God’s Son. 3. CONFESS your faith in Jesus Christ as Savior & Lord. What To Pray To Receive Christ! Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner and need your forgiveness. I believe that Jesus died for my sins. I want to turn from my sins and ask Jesus Christ to come into my heart and life as my personal Savior. I want to trust and follow You as Lord and Savior. Amen.
I use this to help me show people in the Bible their need for a Saviour.
Praying what’s on the card is optional. They can pray their own prayer or if they don’t know what to say, it helps to have it.
lol. My computer acted up and now there’s all kinds of posts! Hahh
I’m so sorry
Welcome to the club!! I don’t think it’s on your end. Happens to me too.
Hi SB2!
It is not your computer, as with you, and many others, and myself included.
A.I. is doing it.
A.I. hates us ALL!
God Bless You SB2!
Roy Bell insinuated that Jacob is trying to obtain a following by writing all of these things about Grider. Jacob already has a following for his Christian news site. Furthermore, there were many people that contacted Jacob about Grider in hopes that Jacob would write an article exposing Grider’s lies. Jacob mentioned in a video that there were women contacting him out of absolute fear that Grider would try to hurt them for speaking out. This scumbag was hitting on married women while trying to make people believe he was a Pastor. Even though Tillis had him ordained, I don’t see him as a Pastor AT ALL because he’s not qualified. Disqualified by the Holy Bible!!!
One of the big concerns was his fundraising. This was thoroughly explained in a prior article. From Irad to numerous checks for tens of thousands of dollars in addition to Waygiver. Since he says everything goes to “one pot”, how are we to know what he is REALLY doing with our hard-earned money that is meant supposedly for the purchase of Bibles to give to people. He never mentions money he spends on the (for profit) Bookstore that he owns.
Bell wasn’t meant to be the target of the article about Kristie, he was just an example of the type of people that keep company with Grider. The type that lies just like Grider. The article exposing Grider was NOT a hit piece and if Bell and Grady were ok with Grider living with Lori then they are not qualified as Pastors either. And although I didn’t have much of an opinion on Bell to begin with, now he has shown his true colors with his joke of a video. His obsession with low T is intriguing. Maybe he thinks that Jacob wouldn’t last long in prison (as opposed to Bell) because Jacob isn’t the type to engage in relations with men?
Lastly, why is everyone in the Grider camp still afraid to SAY KRISTIE’S NAME??? Why was it deleted in chat? Imagine knowing that you’re an embarrassment to your father?? What does that do to a person?? And GSG is STILL ignoring her to this very day! She is his flesh and blood! What kind of “Christian” can be ok with this?
None of us want a clown show but there is some serious issues going on with NTEB that needed to be addressed. Those people who trusted that ministry have been very hurt and appalled. I’m so very thankful for Jacob speaking on behalf of so many who know there is something very wrong at NTEB. Grider refuses to address these very important issues.
You’re welcome.
John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.
They’re panicking because they are being exposed for the frauds that they are and have no real alibi at this point. They’re a bonafide cult. I was correct in my prediction as to what would happen: “These Baptists defend him or play stupid and take the heat and brush it off.” That’s what they are trying to do anyways. At this point I’m kind of done talking about it. It’s in everyone’s faces. If the first article didn’t convince people he’s a fraud then nothing will. So let them have their silly little cult. Genuine Christians and the world see them for what they are.
Jacob, I too want to thank you for all you have done to expose NTEB. If you hadn’t done that, we would not have known what kind of man Grider really is. So grateful to you. I understand how you feel that this is turning into a clown show and we must move on, and I agree with you. I am quite sure you take no pleasure in all this as it is sickening, but we needed to know, and we all needed to come together here and express ourselves so we can come to an understanding of what has been done and get on with our lives. Again, thank you!!!
Agree
You are VERY welcome, and thank you very much for supporting my work! I just feel it’s time for everyone to turn over a new leaf with this. It’s not healthy for any of us. I’m just so sick and tired of dealing with these clowns. It’s funny because now Grider’s alibi is that I am a “talebearer.” That’s the best accusation he can drum up; and even that is not true, and I’d reckon what I did is of true charity and repentance.
1 Corinthians 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
Jacob, I’m sure you know this, but let me share my thoughts: The definition of a talebearer is a person who had words spoken to them in private but then broke that individual’s confidence and repeated what was private to others. That is called gossip, and this situation with Grider is not that. The moral failings of Geoff Grider were made public in the form of the documents you provided (police report, tax documents, etc.) and many other things, including admissions in his own rebuttal article, showing proof he led a life that was not in line with how a pastor, teacher, or leader of a ministry is to behave. You did the right thing in calling him out publicly to make the Body of Christ aware so they could make the right choice in leaving that ministry according to God’s Word. Many have left, and others have chosen to stay. We will all give an account to God for our choices. Geoff Grider’s sins have been found out, and he’s not happy about it, so he’s going to do all he can to deflect his wrongdoing and shame on the other person who called him out instead of owning up to what he has done and doing the right thing. You did the right thing, Jacob, and many of us are grateful to you!
Much appreciated, glory to God!
Hi Loretta, and if I understand correctly, we’ll all be accountable also for how we spent our time, talent and treasure. I’ve called many a Pastor out for apostate teachings in the church. I haven’t set foot in a brick and mortar church in about 15 years. I eliminated the middle man years ago.
Amen, Loretta!
Very well said, Loretta, as was your other comment. I am so grateful to Jacob for exposing this charlatan. I’m so glad I woke up and left NTEB, not that I would have had a choice since GG deleted my posts. Those who stayed are still blind, even when seeing how many have left. They don’t get it, and I feel like I was talking to the wall when putting info out there. GG’s explanation was that we were led by Satan, which is TOTAL deflection, as THEY are all the ones believing him and his tool, Grider.
Hi Denise, unfortunately for some people we are talking to a wall. Some get it now; others will have to come around on their own time, although I don’t know what more it will take for them to see the truth. I am thankful and grateful that the Lord got me away from that ministry!
Well said, DRS. For me the fundraising is the most suspicious. GG’s cult members wanted to ignore that and say we were all unforgiving of GG’s personal failings, which wasn’t the case at all. It does not add up, and his promise to explain the finances never materialized, not that I was holding my breath. He’s laughing all the way to the bank, and they are all feeling smugly righteous, while he’s robbing them blind.
Hi Denise!
WHEN GSG OF NTEB WAS NOT FORTHCOMING IN HIS STATEMENT TO YOU, IT SHOWS HE IS A THIEF, SCAMMER, FRAUD, LIAR, A MAN WHOSE WORD IS OF “NO WORTH”A CHEAT, AND MUCH MORE.
HE FAILED TO DO AN ARTICLE ON REPENTANCE…. BECAUSE HIS SEARED CONSCIENCE IS EITHER UNABLE, OR UNWILLING TO REPENT TO ANYONE, OR HE IS WITHOUT A CONSCIENCE FROM WHAT i HAVE OBSERVED.
But he can recognize those who have been taken captive of the devil, but is unable to see it is he who is such, so deflects onto all of us HIS OWN SINS.
He will tell what he has done with that money when he retires on it, and is in a place with no extradition treaty with the USA.
God Bless You Denise!
Proverbs 18:6
“A fool’s lips enter into contention, and his mouth calleth for strokes.”
The fact this man say brother Jacob is lost then calls him his brother is a complete double minded man. This man thinks the doctrine of salvation is not a big deal. Calling upon the name of the Lord shows a person commitment to God that they want to be saved, not this heretical idea that everyone who believes in God is saved.
This man uses complete foul language and has the nerves to call someone who rebukes others feminine. No need to waste any more time with this devil! There is no love for God in his heart!
Psalm 62:4 They only consult to cast him down from his excellency: they delight in lies: they bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly. Selah.
These hypocrites do this all the time. They’ll act like you are not saved, as if that’s some major insult, but then try to gloss over it with fake charity. I’m honestly done spending time wasting time on these clowns. It’s a cult, let them have it.
He is not even willing to learn the truth on the whole let’s call God a female name issue.
TRIN’ITY, noun [Latin trinitas; tres and unus, unitas, one, unity.]
In theology, the union of three persons in one Godhead, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
The word three persons not in the Bible. This whole definition is nowhere in 1 John 5:7. The best Prooftext supposedly for this doctrine. The trinity doesn’t mean three in one but a three person idea as one. Not even the definition for trinity is in the Bible. This guy is part of the trinitarian cult and the whole let’s call the building the house of God cult!
Genesis 1: Elohim. John 1: Logos. Do a word study…
Have you seen Mr. BELL ‘s (bell? sounds familiar) video in front of the photos of the two different owls? He does a video on the Holy Ghost and makes sure to get in front of the two owl photos. Very obvious if you ask me.
Can you link me that?
This video shows who Mr. Bel serves.
Interesting…
BTW that is the only video I’ve seen with him with the owl photos. And the title just so happens to be HOLY GHOST OR HOLY SPIRIT. You are definitely on to something Jacob T. I encourage you to keep going. Don’t let him scare you. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has some buddies that might try to scare you in person somehow. I will pray for you and donate when I can.
Oh he does not scare me in the slightest, none of them do. I laughed at his childish tantrum. He has already deleted his follow-up video! Anyone that uses the “man card” shows how much of an insecure wimp they are. Those types always have so much to hide. Like you said, I think these guys have some serious connections that they are trying to keep concealed.
Thanks for your support!
This guy has a snake on his bracelet. Very subtle but it’s there. He’s done videos with Breaker and another guy. He also has a moon on his photo on the top of his channel. https://www.youtube.com/@jasonbloodchurch
I also don’t trust this guy at all, https://www.youtube.com/@TruthisChrist/videos, there’s something not right with his work. And I have a feeling his work is going to backfire on believers somehow. Maybe, you can find something. I don’t have your email or I would have just messaged you on there.
winepressnews@aol.com
I don’t recall who he is, so if there’s anything I should be made aware of then feel free to send it my way.
A Harry Potter fan!
Oh! WITCHCRAFT!
All I know about the owl is that it is ever present at the Bohemian Grove every summer here in California. I forget though what the significance of it is.
If y’all aren’t familiar with the gathering at Bohemian Grove every summer, do a search. It’s a gathering of many of the “elite”. Men only. World leaders, celebrities, media people, etc. They also have what’s called a “Cremation of Care” ceremony. Alex Jones used to cover it quite extensively. Very creepy and alot of occultic overtones. It used to be held every July but I haven’t looked it up in the last couple of years.
Hi Nat!
Let’s paint the Bohemian Grove for what it is Satanic!
God Bless You Nat!
Hi Luke!
Are you saying Mason, as in the Bohemian Grove idol?
God Bless You Luke!
The word triune is nowhere in the Bible. Does this guy even believe that the Faith is the soul, Jesus the body, and the Holy Ghost is the spirit?
By the way brother Jacob, I responded to this man in the comment section of his video. It is sickening for me to see all the people in the comments who have been brainwashed by him! Almost every comment has Roy Bells heart on it! This man is disgusting!
Not the one on the Holy Spirit
Mr. Bell is acting kind of like a mason
https://youtu.be/Iq-ZHZrmz7I?si=pz9MAGCyPMBK_e7Y
https://youtu.be/dQKTUnJC5n0?si=Mk5tbKdTT9iwWSOx
Hi Melaney.
That Owl pic isn’t of a real species but looks like the one in the Bohemian Grove in California.
Likely true, look for hand signals and gestures, I would be surprised if NTEB GG was one.
Come to think of it when I lived in Charleston every Mason was a sexual pervert.
God Bless You Melany!
Ron, there is ‘as above, so below’ reflective imagery on the NTEB tracts.
Hi Born Again!
I did note that especially the white house, as he is likely a mason and in cahoots with such, because the main masonic temple is near our washington dc white house how convenient
God Bless You Born Again!
You too, Brother – love you!
Love you too Sister!
For some reason I haven’t been receiving your articles for the past 2 days, Jacob, so I hope this will reinstate me so I will receive them in my inbox again.
Well as far as Rob Bell and GG go, birds of a feather stick together, like thieves
Wouldn’t want to be either one of them on Judgment Day. See you all soon.
As usual, I am having delivery problems again. I contacted escalated support for help. I’m getting so sick and tired of it, like, what am I paying for if it’s just going to keep failing every other month?! I’m sorry, they should start working again soon, Lord willing.
What strikes me about Mr Bell is a few things:
1) When the camera started rolling he started talking in a fake preacher way. You can tell he was putting on a “preacher voice”. I always hated that. Why not just be who you are? It’s like the camera is on now I have to “get into character” to play the part of the preacher.
2) The cool look he’s trying to put on in the video above. A look like he’s trying to impress his criminal prison buddies. This guy spent so much time around the literal scum of the earth (people who think it’s cool to steal, habitually lie, manipulate, murder, fight constantly, argue over anything and everything, curse ever other word, sell dope, rape, and even rape other men in prison- so literally the scum of the earth- the truth is most of these habitual criminals deserve the death penalty and if our country wasn’t so wicked these men would learn real quick that crime doesn’t pay and they wouldn’t be going in and out of prison for 30 years on someone else’s dime that’s for sure) that his mind has to be so messed up, he belongs nowhere near a camera, and NO WHERE NEAR A LEADERSHIP ROLE in Christian ministry. In humility he should get a simple job and go home at the end of each day, and thank the good Lord for His mercy, and read his Bible, and heal from being around all the devil possessed sickos for so many years. These people always want the limelight because they are not humble, and not sincere. You can tell Mr Bell lacks humility. I do believe people get saved in prison (a very few- the vast majority are con men), but they have to learn to repent from their wicked ways and for someone who was so wicked, that he continually was in and out of prison for 30 years!!! He needs to learn to act godly and keep his hands to himself (and stop taking what is not his) and live out his remaining years in humility and humbleness, and stay off the devils drugs.
3) Wanting to have a boxing match. This type of ghetto talk, that he learned from the devils ghetto thugs in the prison, proves he still has that ghetto mindset. He doesn’t have the mind of Christ (Philippians 2:5). Instead of honestly assessing what was written and refuting it intelligently according to the Word of God (which he’d have no leg to stand on), he instead decided to “act the fool” and resort to the old thuggery that he learned from the ignoramuses in the prison system. This is more proof that this man belongs no where near any sort of Christian ministry. Defending the indefensible is not a Christian virtue.
Any you Geoffrey Grider, shame on you! If you’re man enough to “make a baby” then be man enough to be a Father. And better late than never. Don’t you have a heart?
Matthew 24:12
“And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.”
These are the Christian “ministers” we have in the last days. A bunch of filthy, greedy con me.
Great comment! These people are such frauds. If there is one thing my article did is it exposed just how fake a lot of these people in this whole system are. The strong majority of them are unregenerated fools who just purloin people’s work, and reap the rewards riding the coattails of others. It’s just a business for them.
Thank you Jacob. This guy claims to be a Bible believer then contradicts the KJB and challenges you a “boxing match” when he can’t answer the information that was given proving himself to be s fraud. And even worse than that he cuts off the part where Griders daughter explains how he’s an deadbeat and a heartless fraud. How anyone can give to these frauds is disgusting, but not shocking if you look at the amount of money the devils at TBN and people like that get. The anti Christ church is well funded. But the good news is they’re not going to get away with it. They will be exposed in the end. Praise God!
Hi Wolves!
Indeed ever been to Waygiver?
https://waygiver.com/campaigns/1486 (NTEB at !.711MILLION! )
Who attempts to accumulate and grow a donation fund, is that money doing anything for the Kingdom of God? He may as well be the one with one talent that has buried it. It benefits no one. But it will benefit him in the end. When that waygiver fund was first started it had only a goal of just $25,000 and of late it went from 1.75 MILLION to a new goal of !.95 Million.
He owes money so he keeps it there for now so it cannot be touched, nor taxed.
God Bless You Wolves
Ron, he’s just getting himself and all his givers set up for a “good time at the judgement seat of Christ”. 😀
Hi Dolly!
Indeed he is, they will get rewarded, but his motive is only greed, with no repentance from all I have seen. I just found an article link on another website to his NTEB that calls God’s Words into question:
https://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2024/08/nteb-radio-bible-study-a-look-at-christian-persecution-over-the-last-2000-years-shows-us-conditions-are-ripe-for-it-to-return-in-our-day-2539727.html
He states in his opening statements there:
The Church started in persecution, and “IF” the Bible is right, IT WILL GO INTO THE RAPTURE IN THE FLAMES OF TRIBUALTION,
just NOT the Great Tribulation.
Hath God Said ( by his if statement ) questioning God’s Words
He is stating the rapture will be in the first part in how he worded it.
A basic statement of proof is the Church is not in the Tribulation is The word Church is not seen after Chapter 4 until it is coming out of Heaven with The Lord.
Also These verses prove the church IS NOT in even the first half of the Tribulation:
Seal #5
Then read:
Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Daniel 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and “prevailed against them;”
Yet what did The Lord say about His Church?
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell “shall not prevail against it.”
God doesn’t lie, but man sure does!
The people who donated with a pure heart will be rewarded, but not for their lack of discerning since this has been made known about GSG.
God Bless You Dolly!
Ron,
‘if’ – IF???
ummm . . . for GSG to say that, he’s stating HE doesn’t believe the Bible!
Hi Born Again!
He sure is!,
Brother Paul sent me that link.
He is also saying The church will be present in the first half of the tribulation.. and that is impossible!
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
It is foolishness to him.
He has Ezekiel 38/39 so eviscerated that is why he cannot see what is almost at the doorstep of the world. Misery loves company. The Rapture WILL separate the sheep from the goats
I pray you are both well.
God Bless You Born Again!
Hi Born Again!
Every one needs IFF around IFFY Geoffrey
IFF: Identification Friend or Foe,
lots of alarm bells on the FOE
God Bless You Born Again!
TEST, it deleted my previous comment
Loud and clear brother Ron!!
Thank you Nat.
The last comment before was like it had AI interfering with it.
God Bless You Nat!
We’re told to feed the poor. That’s what I give to now, organizations providing meals and essentials to the hungry. We have one here in California called Bay Area Rescue Mission. They also provide the Word of God to their guests.
Hi Nat!
Good for you, GSG on the other hand feeds himself well, and starves those who should be receiving those funds!
God Bless You nat!
Wasn’t the one Bell removed that had the owls in the background?
He didn’t like us discerning such.
A Mason for sure and GSG is likely one too, or worse.
That is correct, Ron. And, you are likely correct on the other point, as well.
Hi Born Again!
The church is filled with devils these days, they will fall for the AC, it is those who never set foot in a church that will most likely be the ones who will be Martyrs.
Those playing church have not received the love of The Truth.
hopefully will have my computer back soon.
God Bless You Born Again!
Look at this.
https://youtu.be/NxeiT_k2XvU?si=6mrln1L2Rrl4FvP0
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Thank you for letting me know about this. Absolutely unreal! And THIS is why I spoke so harshly of Grider, Bell and their inter-connected cronies. I was right: there is a BLATANT coverup of deviant and despicable sin going on. And then I see Bell is in the comments, giving hearts to people, acting like he acknowledges the blatant and perverse coverups that went on at HAC and elsewhere. Complete frauds! And how timely too, because today is day one of Grider’s stupid little bookstore shindig he’s having with Grady and Daniels – and then this happens and makes them all look horrible!
This video has been removed! Good thing I saw it already! What a load of sin. Posting your “life” and having your exwife and gf get into it all the time.
Fraud indeed. Those men at Grider’s BS bookstore opening know all about Grider’s RECENT past and still choose to defend and support that man and his ministry. No shame or reasonable discernment on their part whatsoever.