The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead. -Proverbs 21:16

This is definitely not an article I would have liked to written, but after much prayer, contemplation, and some deliberation with some trusted brethren, I have decided to make this post. As you can see by the title, I now no longer formally recommend bible teacher and preacher Dr. Peter S. Ruckman, with exception to some caveats attached.

Before I get into my reasons as to why, allow me to set the stage here. For starters, I know this is not a type of article that is going to make a lot of people happy and will probably alienate some readers; but I in good conscience cannot continue to ignore what I am going to present.

For that reason, the King James Bible says, “He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him (Proverbs 18:13); and “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” (2 Timothy 2:7).

Allow me to preface this by also stating this: I am NOT saying everything Ruckman taught was bad, quite the opposite: there are many great things that he did teach and some of the wisdom and experiences he provided are blessings; and things like his defense of the King James Bible, bending over backwards and jumping through an endless array of fiery hoops for it – something I would like to believe no lost man would ever do, as Jesus said, “the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life” (John 6:63b); and so I’d like to think that someone who tirelessly defended the word of God is not just some “natural man” – “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14).

Moreover, I also do not believe in throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I learned a long time ago the important lesson of “eat the meat, spit out the bones.” Truth is truth no matter which way you slice it; and I believe that a child of God who has grown in grace, has been established with milk and a little bit of meat at least, and most importantly has the Spirit of Christ in him should be able to discern as much (1 Corinthians 2:10-16).

That being said, if I could give you a metaphor to describe Ruckman’s ministry on the whole, referring to the meat and bones again, it would be comparable to a plate of tons of barbeque chicken wings: lots of meat there, but a lot of bones to pick out, and your hands and face will get messy.

Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour: so doth a little folly him that is in reputation for wisdom and honour.

Ecclesiastes 10:1

Unfortunately, there are a lot of dead horseflies in Ruckman’s ointment that has stunk up the whole joint, which has of course caused so many people to disavow anything he taught, and has caused the word of God to be blasphemed.

This post is not going to be some super-duper piece chronicling every single fault he had or disagreement I have with him. This is mainly going to be talking about, and used as a teaching lesson for us all, what compromise and coverup looks like and the rotten fruit of that. Peter Ruckman had a lot of great stuff, but sad to say, there are just some things he taught and allowed to happen that explains why, not just his, but the underling politics and corporatism in “churchianity” across the spectrum are the way that they are.

Observe what he said with an open mind, and then I’ll give some final thoughts at the end.

Anti-New Testament

Peter Ruckman’s church building, Pensacola Bible Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida, has been riddled with all kinds perversions, antics, and all sorts of scandals; bleeding off into many other staffers and attendants, along with a lot of students from his bible college. I am NOT saying all of his students are bad, lewd, crewed, and heretical, but there are certainly a good number of false prophets and teachers that have been inadvertently created by his ministry. I will not be delving into too many details for now.

These problems start with compromise: knowing that the Bible says one thing but choosing to do another. For starters, by his own admission, Peter Ruckman admits that having a church building is “anti New Testament;” and yet went on to detail his students and readers how to build, structure, and operate one.

In his book “The Local Church” Ruckman makes this admission:

Christians forget that once you put up a building you are ANTI-NEW TESTAMENT. There are no buildings in the New Testament. Once you do this, you are in the “STATE” area, and you needn’t pretend that you are not, for you are.

In our next lesson we will take up the matter of buildings and how to finance them. (You understand that you are not under a New Testament setup in these matters; therefore, one must proceed with the utmost caution.) Because a thing is not in the New Testament (a Sunday school, choir, prayer altar, busses, etc.) does not mean that it is “of the devil” (the Hyper-Dispensationalists teach this), but it does mean double caution and double prayer, double alertness and double care.

The Local Church, Pg. 29, 39 (PDF)

And he is absolutely correct, but he’s a hypocrite because the whole book is designed to teach people to compromise and do the dead opposite of the New Testament; going so far as to recommend people file for with the government as a non-profit, which is the biggest reason why the church buildings are so corrupt because the state owns them now, and make them do whatever if need be (i.e., Covid lockdowns, facemasks, social distancing, don’t talk about politics and political candidates, etc.). He goes on to explain the motivation for going against the New Testament:

They need a corporate testimony in the town so they cannot rightly be labeled as individual nuts.

In other words, don’t be “fools for Christ’s sake” (1 Corinthians 4:10), do what the Catholics and Protestants do to have a shew of religion, so you can conform to this world and people won’t make fun of you for it as much or at all; and you can have everyone come in there in and emulate you, and drain your bank account dry to pay the hirelings and keep the lights on this fortune-sucking temple; and get all superstitious and sacrilegious like the Catholics.

Moreover, he goes on to encourage being greedy of filthy lucre and pick the congregation out of their money if they need it. “Do not be afraid to press your people for money in emergencies or where a real need has to be met in the church,” he wrote on page 55.

There are many more things worth critiquing but that is enough for now. I recommend watching Bryan Denlinger’s breakdown of the book on his YouTube page where he gets into more details.

But I mention this because if Ruckman is willing to actually write down in a book, and have it distributed to his students and purchasable by anyone, then there is no doubt he would most likely have compromised elsewhere with the word of God.

I am not some chronicler of Ruckman and knows every last cotton-pick’n thing he’s ever said or wrote, but I have read small chunks of commentaries, read a number of his books, perused his reference bible on occasion, and watched a sampling of his chalk talks; and so I am very much familiar with what he taught.

I can tell you that he is hysterically inconsistent on a variety of issues. For example, even though he tells people how to conform and compromise to corporate religion, he wrote an awesome note in his study Bible commenting on Acts 19:37, where this pagan worshipper of the goddess Diana referred to her pagan temple as a “church,” and Ruckman pointed out that this was a bit of an “advanced revelation” in the way the text was translated because it foreshadows how people centuries later and now would call their pagan temples a church. That’s a good note.

Moreover, I can show you quotes where he says the right thing about the Godhead and what the scriptures say, and then spins right around and then teaches the Roman Catholic Trinity and draws graven images; or I can show you quotes where he teaches against the immanency of the rapture (that Paul was actively looking for it in his day, and it could happen any second now), and then I can show you where he clearly was date-setting one time, though a lot of his followers have tried to downplay that.

My point is, he is very inconsistent and compromised in many areas; and one such area was church discipline and judgment on sin.

Coverup Of Sin

Ruckman covered up for a lot atrocities, lewdness, and God only knows what else. I know this is something Bryan Denlinger has hammered on about many times before, and it’s true: you can read Ruckman continuously promote Jack Hyles of Hammond, Indiana, and recommend some of his practices in his books and commentaries – Jack Hyles who was this absolutely filthy, disgusting, habitual fornicator; total extortionist, and cultist and mind control leader; and all the false teachers and false converts that were created because of him. Again, Denlinger has thoroughly documented this, as has secular news.

Unfortunately, Ruckman covered up for a lot of sins – I’m NOT talking about personal faults, I’m talking about actual, blatant things that were being done openly; for which the scriptures instruct us in what do with that. Instead, Ruckman wrested the scriptures and laid aside proper judgment, admitting that he is going against the text.

We find one such example in his commentary on 1st and 2nd Corinthians. For this, we are going to examine the apostle instructions given in 1 Corinthians 5. I’ll give the chapter first, which reads:

[1] It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife. [2] And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. [3] For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, [4] In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, [5] To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. [6] Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? [7] Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: [8] Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. [9] I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: [10] Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. [11] But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. [12] For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? [13] But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1 Corinthians 5:1-13

The scripture is clear-cut and plain to understand, but Ruckman condones these actions and admits to not clearing out the congregation for all these blatant, open sins.

I will provide a lengthy quote of what he wrote, lest anyone claim I am taking him out of context. I underlined a few key statements. Starting on page 83 (PDF) Ruckman wrote:


The only way you can turn someone over to the devil is through prayer. You can’t take a fellow by the hand, lead him out there in the woods, and say, “Here he is, Satan; take him.” You can’t “deliver him to Satan” that way. The only way you can do that is by a bunch of people praying. The one of whom Paul is speaking in verse 5 is a saved man. As a matter of fact, he gets right with God and comes back into the congregation.

There is a Christian in Panama City who keeps phoning me and driving up here, worrying about his salvation. Bless his heart, I’ve gotten rude with him the last two times. It just wears me out to hear anyone act like what God says amounts to nothing. This Christian keeps saying, “I’ve lost it. I’ve sinned away the day of grace. The Holy Spirit came into me, but now He has left. I don’t feel like I did feel. I felt it then.” I mean, enough is enough! After a while you have to tell the fellow, “Look here, the Bible says this. Now, you believe it or you don’t. If you want to make a liar out of God, then don’t bother me because I am not interested.” 

The last time I talked with that guy I said, “Brother, I’ve done all I can for you. There is nothing more I can do for you. You’re not going to believe God. I can’t talk with you because I’m interested in what God says about your condition, and you’re not.” He said, “Well, maybe it isn’t a spiritual condition.” I said, “It’s not a spiritual condition. It’s a mental condition. You’re going to wind up in the State Hospital if you’re not careful.” He looked at me kind of funny and said, “Well, I feel like I’m losing my mind.” I said, “You are losing your mind. And if you keep on running that way, you are going to lose it. You can’t live all your life just making a liar out of God and going by your feelings. Who do you think you are?”

You know what he gave me? He said, “What about that fellow in 1 Corinthians God delivered to the devil? I just believe I’ve been turned over to the devil ‘for the destruction of the flesh’.” I said, “Good, fine.” He said, “What do you mean, ‘Fine’?” I said, “Then you’re not hopeless. That guy got right.” He said, “He did?” I said, “Yeah, they took him back into the congregation in the next book.” He said, “Where did you find that?” I said, “Right here. Look at it.” (He wasn’t prepared for that one either!)

Second Corinthians 2:9, “For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things.” If you would turn that fellow over to the devil, verse 10, “To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.”

Who was this fellow? Second Corinthians 2:5–8, “But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all. Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many. So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow. Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.”

Now, how’s that? Consider what a sin that fellow committed! Then when he got right Paul says, “Take him back and forgive him and confirm your love to him.” Did you ever stop to think how contrary that is to a lot of modern Christianity? Some of you folks have trouble in your marriages and get divorced and remarried or something like that, and there will be some Christians that will have nothing to do with you and won’t touch you with a ten-foot pole. They treat some of you folks like you have committed the unpardonable sin. Well, they were told to take this guy back and comfort the guy when he had committed fornication with his father’s wife! They were to take him back in the assembly and help him out. I think you ought to have a sign out in front of the church that says, “The church where everybody is nobody.” (Maybe we should put that in front of our church!)


I’ll stop right here for a moment to dissect this. Ladies and gentlemen, that is an outright denial and wresting of scripture. 2 Corinthians 2:5-10 does not specify anyone in particular: it says “if any” and “such A man,” not in reference to the guy who fornicated with his father’s wife. The Corinthians had all sorts of issues that Paul rebuked them for, including things like people denying the resurrection; for which Paul would prescribe the same judgment of allowing Satan to destroy the flesh for people who “blasphemed” and were “saying that the resurrection is past already” (1 Timothy 1:19-20; 2 Timothy 2:15-18). To change the text to say the Corinthians readmitted this fornicator in particular is to simply deny Paul’s direct command and judgment (verses 2-5, 13). I am all for forgiveness and restitution, but there are just some things, brethren, you must stand firm on.

On that note, he is more of what Ruckman had to say:


Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world” (vs. 10). That is, when he wrote them not to keep company with fornicators he didn’t just mean the unsaved out in the world. “Or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.” Haven’t you found that to be true? How in the world can you make a living out in the world at all without, at times, keeping company with fornicators, extortioners and idolaters? You don’t have to get along with them and slap them on the back and invite them over to the house for supper, but you’re going to be working shingle to shingle with them and brick to brick, and you are going to be working wheel to wheel and table to table with them.

Brethren, I know it is a grief to you sometimes, but the only way you can get rid of all the wickedness is to kill yourself. The only way you can get away from sin is leave this world. That’s all there is to it. A Christian (in Kansas City) said to me one time, “How come the Lord doesn’t let me have any fellowship with any other Christian men?” I said, “Well, they’re around.” He said, “Where? I have forty guys that work for me. They all drink and cuss and live like the devil and have nude pictures on their lunchboxes and lockers. I want to have fellowship with Christians, and there are never any around the places I work. I’m in that plant with them all day long. Aren’t there any Christian men around?” I said, “Sure, I know where a lot of them are.” He said, “Where?” I said “Well, I know where ten are in Pensacola and twenty over in Memphis, and I know ten of them in Holland, Michigan, and ten over in Detroit and four or five over in Chicago and four or five up in Rochester and three or five down in Atlanta and four or five over in St. Petersburg.” He said, “Oh.” He said, “Well, why doesn’t the Lord let all of us get together?” I said, “Man, if we all got together we would just eat and sing and praise God and let the world go to hell.” We would!

Did you ever get in a “sure enough” fellowship where you had “dinner on the grounds” all day for two days running and singing and preaching in the morning, afternoon and night? You get to going like that, man, and the world just gets dimmer and dimmer and just begins to slip away. Then, when you go back in the next day, it is just like hitting a barbed wire fence. The Lord puts Bob Jones in South Carolina and Lee Robertson in Tennessee so they won’t fight. That’s right. Then he puts Dr. DeHann in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and sits Theodore Epp out in Nebraska and runs Charlie Fuller clean out to the coast. If He didn’t spread us out, we wouldn’t reach the world. The Lord will spread you out. Not all of the students who come to school at the Pensacola Bible Institute appreciate the good times they have here. When a student comes here, he often has a rough time of it. He has to put up with low pay and a terrible schedule. But the Lord gives grace and blessings while they are here and feeds their souls. After three years, a student gets his diploma and steps out into the world and says, “What now?”

Well, that world is cold and miserable, and it gets worse every year. But our students have an advantage that students of other schools don’t have. At PBI, there has been no dormintory in which they could hide. They have had to be right in the middle of the world; they have had to find a place to live, find a job, pay the bills on their own, and raise a family while going to school. They have already experienced the problems of the world before graduation, and they do not find it quite as rough when they graduate. But these guys who are raised in a Christian home all the way through, and then go to a Christian school and stay in an air conditioned dorm with a barbed wire fence around it, when they step out there—WHAM! That thing hits them like a freight train hitting a Black Angus. The Lord spreads Christians out, and the only way they can get completely shed of sin (and sinners) is to get out of this world. So he didn’t mean that. What did he mean? He meant verse 11. “But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat” (vs. 11). In plainer words, you are not to have close fellowship with a Christian who continually practises fornication or other such sins

The early churches used to practice what we call “church discipline.” Church discipline was taking a member who was guilty of those things, and the church would get together and vote him out. Your churches are in such a mongrel condition today that you couldn’t vote anybody out, because if you voted anybody out, you would have to vote out half the congregation. If you are going to get rid of a fornicator, how about the covetous?

Let me show you what I mean. Paul says, “And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.” Do you know any church member in Pensacola that is content with “food and raiment”? No car, no ice box, no refrigerator? You say, “Oh, not that!” Yes, that. No radio, no toaster, no electric heater. “Food and raiment.” I’ll tell you, if you put that thing down on modern America, 90 percent of the fundamentalists would just evacuate the churches. There would be nothing left. When you start practicing “church discipline” out there in the world as pastors, I’ll tell you how you are going to have to do most of your work. You are going to do it on your knees or from the pulpit. You are going to have to preach them out. It can be done, but you will sure get cussed out while you are doing it. I have got four sermons that are guaranteed to empty any church in about three weeks. One of them is called “The Pious Grumblers.” One of them is called “The Spiritual Pretenders.” One is called “Living in the Past.” The other is called “How to Miss a Blessing.” You get those four things going, and I’ll guarantee they can empty any church. Just preach ‘em one time. You will flush every Pharisee in the congregation.

“An extortioner.” Did you know it is a sin to extort money? Do you know what extortion means? It means to “ex,” pick it out of them, and “tort,” torture: to take it out under pressure. It is to force the guy to give it. Do you know what that means? That means if any man stands where I am standing and tells you God is going to kill your baby if you don’t tithe or tells you that you are a God robber if you don’t tithe or God is going to kill you or you are going to get sick etc., he is an extortioner. There are nice ways to put it. You can say “the Lord is out collecting tithes this week-end.” Or “if you don’t give what the Lord has due to Him, He might collect it.” That’s true. But the point is you can’t use that as a weapon to get a collection. When you put pressure on your congregation to extort that money from them to the point that they are giving it because they are afraid, then you are an extortioner. That Bible says, “God loveth a cheerful giver, ” not a scared giver. When it comes to extortion, I wonder how many pastors would have to get out of the pulpit? 

Somebody said, “We go by the New Testament.” Ah, come on! These Campbellites say, “Where the Scriptures speak, we speak, and where the Scriptures are silent….” Ahh, get off it, man! What are you talking about? I’ve been all over this country. I have preached in over 400 churches. I have never been in a church which was 100 percent spiritual. There is no way in the world you can find one. It is like old Jimmy Stroud said, “We are caught in an unscriptural situation.” 

A fellow said to me, “Why are you a Baptist?” I said, “Because an independent Baptist church is the closest thing I can find to the New Testament practice.” I didn’t say it was New Testament practice. I said it was the closest thing I could find to it. You can’t find any church that is completely New Testament in practice. You can try to set up a church like that. More power to you. 

Now, find somebody in your congregation messing up, then gather an assembly against them after you’ve talked with them and have taken two people with you. I’ve done it. I know what will happen. Then you meet in the back room and vote them out and kick them out of the church and see what happens. Boy, you put somebody out of the church, and do you know what that person that you are putting out will do? He will come right to you and say, “Do you know what so and so is doing?” And blam! you will have two of them to get out. You go to that person and talk to them, and you have no sooner left them until they go to somebody and say, “Do you know what that pastor said when he was with me? Why, he said….” And they will lie about you. Then they bring four or five other guys in and the business meeting comes up and instead of one guy to kick out you have got seventeen families to kick out. Then as soon as you do that somebody says, “He split the church.” You just watch what I’m telling you. This bunch of Christians with whom we are dealing, today, have such low standards you can’t even deal with them like New Testament Christians. Their ethics are down in the cellar.


While there is evidently some truth buried in there, I should not need to tell you – if you have an honest heart and open eyes – that what Ruckman wrote is nothing short of compromise, and is the reason why the American church system is the way that it is; because, for example, if such a chain reaction occurred and a lot of people decided to leave, then that would mean a whole lot less money and donations to pay the buildings expenses and pay the payroll for the corporation’s “employees.” But all in all, this is why America is where it’s at: dead.

And this bleeds into the pastors and elders behind the pulpits, too. Again, Ruckman caved on this standard too when it came to the qualifications for a bishop in 1 Timothy 3, which says:

[1] This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. [2] A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; [3] Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; [4] One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; [5] (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) [6] Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. [7] Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

1 Timothy 3:1-7

But Ruckman, like so many others, watered down the standards. In his commentary on the Pastoral Epistles, page 64 (PDF), wrote this:

He is not to be a heavy drinker, he is not to go around beating his adversaries up, and he is not to be greedy for money (see 1 Tim. 6:5, 10, and comments). This automatically disqualifies about 3,000 “once-married men” who covet land, buses, property, offerings, bank accounts, loans, interest, and investments. We are obviously dealing with IDEAL qualifications for an IDEAL pastor. If there is a pastor in America who meets all of the qualifications in 1 Timothy 3:1–7, I have perhaps met him on only about three occasions: three out of about 800.

Denlinger comments on this as well:

The text of 1 Timothy 3 is not about “idealism,” it says “must.” But again, this is what happens when you compromise in one area and the whole thing just starts to fall apart. The church buildings have no basis in scripture, then you yoke up with the government; hire unqualified and unfaithful leadership, and then condone blatant, open, wickedness and sin – not personal faults and struggles you confess one to another (James 5:16), and not the general “all have sinned” cliché, it’s blatant and open sin, that the Bible says we must put out from the fellowship. Period. But when the standards are so low that a guy who can fornicate with his father’s wife is permitted to return to the fellowship, after the lost world widely reported it no less, then what standards do we really have at all?

And then you have other troubling statements that I have read as well, such as these two:

Peter never stopped loving the Lord Jesus Christ a day in his life. He only got temporarily “put out” with Him because He wouldn’t let Peter use his sword (see comments on John 18:11) when “push came to shove.” Married couples who sincerely love each other have often gone through what Peter went through; they got mad at their mate. Bob Jones Sr. said on a number of occasions, “I have never felt like divorcing my wife, but I have often felt like choking her.” Arguing with a woman about anything is kind of like trying to blow out a light bulb.

We have already covered verses 27 and 28 in chapter 6. Paul is applying what he said in verses 17–24 to the Christian’s marital situation. If you are married, stay married. Bob Jones Sr. used to say, “I’ve been married to one woman for forty-five years, and I never felt like leaving her, but I’ve often felt like choking her to death.

Ruckman wrote in his commentaries on John, page 319 (PDF), and 1 & 2 Corinthians, page 110.

That’s just disgusting and appalling – to actually pen that down in a commentary no less. I need not delve too much deeper on that.

I could keep going and going here but hopeful you understand my plight.

Bearing this in mind, coupled with all the other problems I have aforementioned, I cannot in good confidence recommend Ruckman’s work to a new believer and babe in Christ. Perhaps some works of his to seasoned believers and that have some discernment, but for me a general recommendation at this point is off the table. The coverups and the scandals that continue to persist in Ruckman’s flavor of Baptist churches, and Baptists in general, cannot be overlooked or ignored;

– Especially after, at the time that I am writing this, I just got done exposing Geoffrey Grider for all of his problems and coverups; who learned a lot from Ruckman, and was his pianoboy infrequently several times before his death. I am NOT claiming in ay facet that Ruckman knew about this, however, what he taught concerning church discipline is every religious hypocrite’s, pervert’s, thief’s, and liar’s dream.

Grider (right) with Ruckman

SEE: Exclusive: Geoffrey Grider Of Now The End Begins Exposed As A Sexual Criminal And Predator, And Extortioner

Believe me when I say I honest to God I hate writing these types of post, but something I feel needed to be said about, so take it however you so will. Again, I am not saying everything he ever said was wrong or bad, but what he taught and condoned on this issue cannot be overlooked, for it certainly explains a lot…


[7] Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock? [8] Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also? [9] For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? [10] Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope. (1 Corinthians 9:7-10).

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  • Thank you brother Jacob. I can attest when I got saved last year I turned into a knowledge sponge regarding anything related to the bible and by the Lord’s abundant grace the ministry I started learning from first was brother Bryan’s. For several months he was the only preacher I listened to and through him I later found your ministry. Whenever brother Bryan lamented the fact that he couldn’t find other preachers he could recommend in good faith the Lord really made those words rest heavily on my heart and for a long time I refused to go find other bible teachers. Eventually the Lord opened doors to teach me through other brothers in Christ but I quickly learned the Lord had very clearly and intentionally kept me from being exposed to other ministries before getting a sound schooling under brother Bryan. Peter Ruckman was one of the first bible teachers I started listening to after brother Bryan and I have been blessed by a great many of the things the Lord revealed to him but I was able to clearly notice some problems with many of his teachings. As a babe in Christ myself I just want to encourage you that what you are doing here is invaluable to the body of Christ. I think one of the biggest problems today is the push to evangelize and get people to turn to the Lord but after that these new converts are often left out to dry and get exposed to all kinds of heresies that seriously mess you up often times permanently. By the Lord’s supernatural intervention I have been spared that but I have seen and heard from other testimonies how often this happens to new converts and can horribly neuter the zeal, understanding, and peace of mind of new brothers and sisters. Another issue I have noticed with brother Ruckman’s ministry is the unfortunate rise of glorifying the man rather than the Lord. I would not blame Ruckman for this directly as he always held the book as the standard but I believe the devil has used Ruckman’s compromise and winning personality to form a cult mindset around the man and unfortunately I think a lot of those people are genuinely saved but have been sucked into it. On that note you have no doubt happened a rather large can of worms with this one so I felt compelled to comment and give some encouragement amidst what will probably be a deluge of criticisms. Thank you again.
    2 Thessalonians 3:6 KJV
    Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. 

  • I have binged watched his chalk talks and i gather this same conclusion that i had to be alert and cautious that he didnt always line up with God’s word. Some truths sure but God showed me ealier on in my salvation that worship buildings are filled with satans children. not one saved soul could ever sit in one of them pews having God’s Holy Spirit dwelling in them. I stand for that and i will never move from this stance.

    I’ve been through them all and they are ALL filled with sex perverts… the leaders running the joints and all people that attend whether young or old.

    Being forced by a catholic mother, even my father being an atheist hated these religious pagan worship buildings and i took that side to get me out too which i now know was the Lord’s doing coz it ruined so much and still does for so many others today.

    this was a great piece and i too can no longer recommend him to babes in Christ.

    Lastly, God has always taught to take the good and throw out the bad and not to compromise and in doing so i have lost so much family but i do not regret it coz i did as the Lord instructed me i showed them the scriptures like he asked me to, i even showed them you videos and brother bryan’s videos and they with pride and annoyed rejected it all and became very bitter with me and threatening. so i cut them off and prayed to the Lord telling him of all that happened and left them all in his hand.

  • I find it funny that so many Baptist pastors like Ruckman (if I’m not mistaken) would hold such high standards against alcohol to the point that they would preach that drinking it at all is a sin, but then lower their standards for things like SEX PERVERSION going on in the church among the clergy, like with how he covered up for Jack Hyles. It’s so hypocritical and disgusting. You take ridiculously high standards against things like alcohol, but then cover up sex perversion and make excuses for said perverts?

    I love a lot of what Ruckman said and taught, and I believe he was a saved man, but I totally understand you no longer recommending him. Great article.

  • I am going thru his commentaries, so should I just stop or just be real cautious, i have found things that are not right and noted them? Who else do you recommend? Yes, I follow Brother Bryan and you.
    I’m past milk for babes and just starting to ingest meat, Bible knowledge speaking.

    • Pray for discernment. At my several universities I was required to read a great deal of what I call religious “trash.” I analyze this using the fish dinner. You go out and eat a fish dinner, you eat the meat (wise nuggets) but leave the bones. Ruckman was well versed in Greek, Hebrew and the KJB. From my examination of his works, commentaries and chalk talks he has spent thousands of hours studying. Use discretion but glean wisdom. Ask the Lord to grant you wisdom. All preachers are and were human subject to temptations and vices. Some gave in others did not. Even Paul said in Romans, Romans 7:19 (KJV)
      “For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.” Study to show thyself approved be a Berean and search the scriptures.

  • Some of the things Ruckman predicted way back in the 80s have come to pass that I do not think was on anyone else’s radar but his. I do not know of any coverup of Jack Hyles on Ruckman’s part or if Ruckman just looked the other way, or what, so I’ll have to take another look at that. Maybe Ruckman was figuring Jack Hyles’s sin will find him out and left it at that. No lawsuits either.
    If Ruckman had “come up” in the Internet and YouTube age, where abandoning the church building altogether was a viable option,.would we be having this discussion?
    I just ordered something from his bookstore in Pensacola very recently and I have no desire to cancel the order. I have heard people hint that Ruckman was a Jesuit co-adjutor, and to that I would reply that if that were so, we need more of these Ruckmanlike co-adjutors. I also have been binge watching Ruckman and paying more attention to his question and answer sessions where I’ve gleaned even more info and have had some questions answered. I do not believe in hero worship and I will not do this in regard to Ruckman, but I have noticed some of the people who actually despise Ruckman and still call themselves Christian are not people I want anything to do with. They actually give me the creeps. As far as what his leftover congregation is doing now, it’s no secret that apostasy can set in very quickly once the leader is gone. I’m not saying that is the case, but I do not follow the likes of Gene Kim or anyone associated with PBI now, but that’s only because I have enough just keeping up with who I do watch.

  • Rome will ‘leverage’ this bigtime….kind of like: anything you say can & will be used against you, in the way of Gentile Law: but then that’s been happening since the Sadduccees, Pharisees and Sadduccees and the mess that came of the intertestamental period in the times of the Gentiles in which we still live. “It’s a wicked, wicked, wicked, wicked world that we live in…” and it is not a bad thing to recognize just how wicked, and how prone our flesh is to these things.

    Come soon, Lord Jesus.

    • Yes, I think you are correct. Rome and her US news media cooleys will potentially have a field day with this. Maybe. Let’s see how much they want to spend in time and money watching two Christian groups duke it out and/or how interested the average American will be in this during the upcoming Foot-Baal, Basket-Baal, and Base-Baal season. Maybe that would be a good time to ask the question why a Catholic Church in the recent Maui “forest fire” was unscathed and see if they give us the same answer used after the Hiroshima blast.

  • I decided years ago that I would take a stand for my brothers in Christ who take a stand for the Lord Jesus and His word and so that is what I’m doing with this response. Both Peter Ruckman and Geoffrey Grider have blessed my family and I for several years now, with the stand their ministries take for the Lord Jesus Christ and for the King James Bible. I have learned from both of these brothers and also been encouraged by them with their teaching, as well as their street ministries as they get out in the streets and preach, rather than sitting in a building and waiting for the lost to come in to hear the preaching (Mark 16:15). With that said, both of them are sinners, as am I, but the Lord Jesus Christ washed us from our sins in his own blood.

    The bible says “So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.”. I am not aware of any scripture which contradicts that and tells us that every one of us shall give account of himself to the brethren. I also realize the bible tells us to receive not an accusation (against an elder), but before two or three witnesses and to rebuke them that sin before all, that others also may fear (which appear in Timothy, instructions for the Pastor or head of a body of believers). Brother Grider had already repented of his sins and confessed them to the Lord, so I’m not sure what dragging them out in front of everyone is supposed to accomplish, other than possibly to damage his ministry, which the Lord has used to reach many and also used to feed many of His sheep. I really don’t know what accusing Peter Ruckman is supposed to accomplish, as he went home to be with the Lord over 7 years ago, again other than to damage the ministry he left behind which has been a blessing to many, including many of us who have listened to brother Bryan’s teaching/preaching and/or visit the Winepress on a regular basis. I am not defending either where they have clearly not walked according to the word, but merely asking what is your main goal and how it could further the gospel. I think we would also do well to remember Matthew 18:15, where the Lord Jesus instructs us to go directly to the brother who has trespassed against us, but it isn’t clear if that was done and seems impossible in the case of brother Ruckman. And in Matthew 18:16-17, the Lord Jesus tells us “if he will not hear thee, then take with the one or two more” and “if he shall neglect to to hear them, tell it unto the church”.

    Similarly, we are told to “Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.” I am not familiar with verses which tell us to examine the brethren, to be sure they are in the faith and question their salvation, so it grieves me to see other brothers in Christ questioning the salvation of men who not only profess faith, but by their fruits (Matt 7:16-17) also clearly possess faith and the evidence of the Holy Ghost working within them. We are told there is an “accuser of our brethren” in Revelation 12:10 and I certainly do not intend look like him. I again am not defending anyone’s sin (including my own to be clear) and neither should any Christian, but we should do it in a way that is loving and charitable towards our brothers and sisters in Christ (John 13:35).

    Our time to get something done for the Lord and to reach the lost is running out quicker than we probably even imagine, given that all of the signs the Lord told us to look for are already visible and many of which are barely even in shadows any longer. Surely we have more important work to get done for the Lord Jesus and worse enemies to confront on the battlefield in these last days, than our brethren. Again, I also don’t defend church buildings as was referenced in Ruckman’s book, especially as the only physical “church” that appears is the one in Laodicea, which is of course the one that the Lord Jesus is OUTSIDE of and knocking on the door. Never are we told to wait inside of a building for the lost to come us to us to hear the preaching of the gospel, but neither are we told to wait behind our phones or Internet resources, waiting for the lost to come to us. We are commanded to “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.”, which I pray we all will do before the Lord calls us up to meet Him in the air.

    • Proverbs 18:5 It is not good to accept the person of the wicked, to overthrow the righteous in judgment.
      At the absolute very least he is not fit for ministry. That is what the scriptures say, period, and by you condoning it makes you a partaker. You cannot serve the Lord and have all kinds of leaven in your midst.
      1 Corinthians 5:2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. [6] Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? [11] But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      • i hope i word this properly.

        we should all be cutting off aswell those that say are Jews but are not.
        because they dont believe in Jesus being God in the flesh.

        Christian and Jew are the same thing. Abraham was Jew by blood line he was a syrian man but inwardly because he believed in the one and only God (Jesus) and entering into a covenant through physical circumcision was made a Jew but Now through the circumcision of the heart the new testament those that believe in Jesus Christ the only begotten aon of God and the full manifestation of the godhead, God Almighty in the flesh being truly saved with a changed life and having the Holy Spirit dwelling in us are we made Jews/Christians and no more gentiles or heathens nor pagans as once before when lost and therefore not of the synagogue of satan. but those that are lost and say they are Jews(Christians) are of the synagogue of satan.

        John 8:32
        And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

        My proof for the saved children of God being Jews:

        Romans 2:28-
        For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outwardly in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which in one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

        Galatians 3:29
        And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

        Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

    • Marcus M you are going against the clear teachings of scripture concerning what we know of Geoffrey Grider.

      1 Timothy 3:2
      “A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;”

      By Mr Griders own admission he left his wife because there was too much arguing. He had a podcast a few months ago concerning marriage and divorce and he was getting push back pretty hard concerning his less than scriptural views. I remember listening to it and scratching my head and thinking this guy makes up the rules as he goes. This is another issue to add to the disqualifying list. So basically his current marriage is adultery according to scripture and you’re defending him and in opposition to the KJB that you claim to defend.

      So let’s look at that verse again concerning someone you think is fit for ministry because “he’s blessed my family and I for several years now”. Remember we’re supposed to base our opinions on what Gods word says not on our subjective feelings or who we like or who we want to be loyal to.

      Is GG blameless?
      Is GG the husband of one wife?
      Has GG been sober?
      Has GG been of good behavior? Would you want someone stalking your wife? Hitting on your wife? Would you want someone video taping your daughter doing a lewd act, without her knowing it (and at the same time going on his weekly podcast bragging about all the things “he’s getting done for the Lord?”

      We all know the answers to the above questions, so if you continue to defend this guys “ministry” you’re creating an idol. God told us he is not qualified to lead any ministry. He is disqualified according to His word.

      You are going against God and need to repent. We ought not create little gods of those who “we relate to” or those “who blessed us”. It’s not about us, it’s about obeying God even if GG was your lifelong best friend or a member of your family. God comes first.

      • Chas – excellent comment And from my understanding having a wife who argues more than one would like is NOT grounds Biblically to divorce her. I think there is more to that story that he is not sharing, especially now that his behavior has been brought to light.

        • Thanks littletoenail.
          I agree arguing is not grounds for divorce. And he stated it like he can do it just because … all the while claiming he’s a hardcore KJB follower. Not backing it up with one verse of scripture nor caring to do so. I also agree there’s probably much more to that story.

    • you dont get it Marcus GOD just blew the top of this devil to show you all that follow him how he is really a devil posing as a sheep. Wake up! this devil hasnt led anyone of you’s to the Lord Jesus Christ. he was leding you all to satan all the while gouging your monies and telling you lies meanwhile liging like the devil he really is behind all your backs.

      Accept God’s truth, get rid of your pride, repent and give GOD all the glory he deserves for SPARING your life from going down with this devil.

  • i hope i word this properly.

    we should all be cutting off aswell those that say are Jews but are not.
    because they dont believe in Jesus being God in the flesh.

    Christian and Jew are the same thing. Abraham wasnt a Jew by blood line, he was a syrian man but inwardly he was a Jew because he believed in the one and only God (Jesus) and entering into a covenant through physical circumcision was made a Jew but Now through the circumcision of the heart the new testament those that believe in Jesus Christ the only begotten son of God and the full manifestation of the godhead, God Almighty in the flesh being truly saved with a changed life and having the Holy Spirit dwelling in us are we made Jews/Christians and no more gentiles or heathens nor pagans as once before when lost and therefore not of the synagogue of satan. but those that are lost and say they are Jews(Christians) are of the synagogue of satan.

    John 8:32
    And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

    My proof for the saved children of God being Jews:

    Romans 2:28-
    For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outwardly in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which in one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

    Galatians 3:29
    And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

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