Dr. Anthony Fauci, the former head and contributor at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), said in a recent interview that he had nothing to do with the lockdowns in the United States and the litany of problems it created, and his recommendations that caused massive upheaval, cannot be attributed to him.
In a recent interview with The New York Times, Fauci was asked by David Wallace-Wells to reflect on The Covid War as a whole, and what could have been done better and mistakes that were made.
Fauci was asked about the criticism he received on both sides of the aisle in regards to lockdowns, masking, testing, isolation, and so forth, and if these things were responses to the culture wars and economic devastation, and how people wanted to move on from it. Fauci acknowledged, but, speaking in third person, pushed back and absolved himself of any wrongdoing.
I certainly think things could have been done differently — and better — on both sides. I mean, anybody who thinks that what we or anybody else did was perfect is not looking at reality. Nothing was done perfectly.
But what I can say is that, at least to my perception, the emphasis strictly on the science and public health — that is what public-health people should do. I’m not an economist. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is not an economic organization. The surgeon general is not an economist.
So we looked at it from a purely public-health standpoint. It was for other people to make broader assessments — people whose positions include but aren’t exclusively about public health. Those people have to make the decisions about the balance between the potential negative consequences of something versus the benefits of something.
Certainly there could have been a better understanding of why people were emphasizing the economy. But when people say, “Fauci shut down the economy” — it wasn’t Fauci. The CDC was the organization that made those recommendations. I happened to be perceived as the personification of the recommendations.
But show me a school that I shut down and show me a factory that I shut down. Never. I never did. I gave a public-health recommendation that echoed the CDC’s recommendation, and people made a decision based on that. But I never criticized the people who had to make the decisions one way or the other.
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Wallace-Wells challenged him however, and pointed out that Fauci and his many cohorts had downplayed the severity and precautions for months lest his reputation face ire; but Fauci still stuck to his guns, and said that he wishes a heavier hand of overreach was deployed sooner.
Well, first of all, this is one of the things that keeps getting distorted. When I said we don’t need to do anything different right at this moment, please don’t forget that was followed by a semicolon, and then a “however,” and then by, “This could change rapidly, and we better be prepared for that.” I said that every single time. And the people who want to do gotchas on me only show the first part.
And would we have been able to shut down the economy? Would the country have accepted it, when you had a handful of cases and one death? I’m not saying that’s a reason not to do it — we should have, probably, if we knew what we know now. But with just a few cases, I don’t know if we would’ve gotten the country to shut down.
Wallace-Wells further asked for clarification on masking and if it was all really worth it, and if the culture war strife it caused was really worth it in the end. Fauci still emphasized that wearing a N95 mask works great, but was not sure if being in the forefront of the culture wars helped anything.
Wallace-Wells: It was around the same time that the mask guidance wavered — first, masks were not recommended, and then they were. But I want to ask you to reflect on the even bigger picture: Were the culture-war fights over masking worth it? Or did those fights have a bigger negative impact on future vaccine uptake among conservatives than the positive impact they had on spread? To be clear: I’m not someone who doesn’t think masks work. I think the science and the data show that they do work, but that they aren’t perfect and that at the population level the effect can be somewhat small. In what was probably our best study, from Bangladesh, in places where mask use tripled, positive tests were reduced by less than 10 percent.
Fauci: It’s a good point in general, but I disagree with your premise a bit. From a broad public-health standpoint, at the population level, masks work at the margins — maybe 10 percent. But for an individual who religiously wears a mask, a well-fitted KN95 or N95, it’s not at the margin. It really does work.
But I think anything that instigated or intensified the culture wars just made things worse. And I have to be honest with you, David, when it comes to masking, I don’t know. But I do know that the culture wars have been really, really tough from a public-health standpoint. Ultimately an epidemiologist sees it as an epidemiological phenomenon. An economist sees it from an economic standpoint. And I see it from somebody in bed dying. And that’s the reason it just bothers me a lot — maybe more so than some others — that because of the culture wars you’re talking about, there are people who are not going to make use of an intervention that could have saved their lives.
After being pressed on a variety of issues, especially his position that Covid is zoonotic and not manipulated and leaked from a laboratory somewhere, Fauci said,
Well, I sleep fine. I sleep fine. And remember, this work was done in order to be able to help prepare us for the next outbreak. This work was not conceived by me as I was having my omelet in the morning.
Fauci more recently was then interviewed by CNN where he asked about some of his responses, and he, once again, defended his position on masking.
AUTHOR COMMENTARY
[14] Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men. [15] Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away. [16] For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall. [17] For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence. Proverbs 4:14-17
Yes, I’m sure this evil demoniac sleeps quite well at night.
Most of the interview is a bunch of nonsense: some goof at the Toilet Paper of Records “challenging” Fauci on a bunch of made up pseudo-science about this made-up bug called “Covid-19,” and how “deadly” the “pandemic” was. I only wanted to focus on the salient parts and not waste your time on the stupid nonsense all these liars made-up and forced-fed to the sheep – stuff that you and I knew was about as real as pixie dust from day one.
The endless hypocrisies of Fauci (some of them) can be read here that contradict the bull crap he is saying now.
But what he said is on par with what he said when the heat was starting to get to him, and, with his hubris so massive, he chastised his critics by saying attacking him is attacking science.
It’s very dangerous … A lot of what your seeing as attacks on me quite frankly are attacks on science because all of the things I have spoken about from the very beginning have been fundamentally based on science.
As a public health official and scientist, you’re really attacking not only Dr. Anthony Fauci, you’re attacking science … You have to be asleep not to see that … Science and the truth are being attacked.
He once told MSNBC
Good riddance to this ghoul.
But ye are forgers of lies, ye are all physicians of no value.
Job 13:4
[7] Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock? [8] Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also? [9] For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? [10] Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope. (1 Corinthians 9:7-10).
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Enjoy your sleep while it lasts, Fauci, because your eternity will have not a wink whatsoever!
Leviticus 26 KJV
Tony Fauci, the pharmacist’s son from Crooklyn, NY. I wouldn’t trust that man to affix a bandage to a shallow cut. Maybe he’ll be selling used cars in Hell.
Selling used cars in Hell and burning in one, too!