American Atheists and other secular groups expressed concern over the program — especially if religious groups applied for forgiveness. That essentially turned loans into grants to pay the salaries of religious leaders, said Nick Little, vice president and general counsel of the Center for Inquiry, another atheist group.

The following report is from the Religion News Service:

When Michigan’s governor required churches to stop meeting in person on March 16 last year, Kenton Sanders, director of operations at Mars Hill Bible Church, quickly did some worrying math.

About 40% of donations to the megachurch in Grandville, Michigan, came during in-person services that drew some 1,750 adults, students and children weekly. With in-person services shutting down, donations would surely tumble. If that happened, the church would have to lay off some of its staff.

It was at the beginning of the pandemic, we had just gone online, and had no idea what was going to happen.

So, like more than 120,000 churches and other religious organizations nationwide, Mars Hill applied for help through the Paycheck Protection Program, the emergency loan program created by the CARES Act, a $2.2 [$6.2] trillion relief and stimulus package passed by Congress in March 2020. Under the PPP, the Small Business Administration would funnel funds to local banks, which would make loans to employers in their communities.

Mars Hill’s $295,000 loan, approved on April 14, 2020, would protect two dozen jobs at the church, at least for a few months.

But within a month after the loan was approved, Sanders noticed that giving had actually gone up. In addition to regular offerings that came in online, church members also contributed to a benevolence fund, known as “the white bucket project,” to help neighbors in need during the pandemic.

After talking with other Mars Hill leaders, Sanders called up the bank and returned the entire amount of the loan.

Mars Hill is one of a small number of religious organizations that took out large PPP loans only to return the funds without ever withdrawing a penny or to pay back the loan back in full. According to an analysis by Religion News Service of data from the SBA, 13,408 religious groups, mainly churches, were approved for loans of $150,000 or more. Of those, 100 paid the loans back without asking for the loans to be forgiven. Fewer than 50 other groups were approved for the loans but did not withdraw the funds.

The repaid loans range from $4.37 million to $150,500 and totaled just over $66 million. Those repaying the loans include 99 Christian groups and one Muslim organization.

Lakewood Church is a nondenominational Christian megachurch in Houston. It is one of the largest congregations in the U.S., occupying a former sports arena. Photo courtesy of Creative Commons
Osteen’s football stadium-church building. Courtesy: Creative Commons

At least one well-known congregation, Lakewood Church in Houston, pastored by televangelist Joel Osteen, recently announced that it will pay back a $4.43 million dollar PPP loan. A church spokesman said the loan will be paid back with interest over 60 months.

More than 8,800 religious groups have asked for their loans to be forgiven — as the program was designed to allow, and a relatively common practice for all PPP borrowers. The status of another approximately 4,500 remaining loans has not yet been reported to the SBA by local banks.

All told, 11,823,594 PPP loans were approved, for a total of $799.8 billion.

For Philadelphia Baptist Church, based in Deville, Louisiana, getting approved for a PPP loan provided peace of mind when such peace was in short supply. Pastor Philip Robertson called the early days of the pandemic the most stressful time of his more than quarter-century as a pastor.

Pastor Philip Robertson. Courtesy photo
Philip Robertson

While the church had some reservations about the loan and whether it would come with government strings attached, Robertson said, 

We wanted to make sure that we were able to continue to pay our staff and not have to endure catastrophic financial implications.

From the beginning, church leaders decided to pay the $181,170 loan back if they could. The funds were set aside, said Robertson, and to be spent only if they were needed.

When giving remained steady, the church repaid the loan in July of 2020. Paying the loan back cost the church about $400 in interest, said Robertson, a small price to pay for the peace of mind that came with the loan.

Robertson said he’s thankful that the church was eligible for the loan — even though it was funded by the federal government — grateful that the loan turned out not to be needed and grateful for the continued giving of church members.

The people of God give because they give out of obedience to the Lord and wanted to support the ministry and work of their church. And that was a priority for them. Even in the midst of a global pandemic.

Paul Spilker, lead executive pastor at College Park Church in Indianapolis, which paid back a $1,157,100 loan, was also surprised by the generosity of church people during the pandemic. The loan, he said, allowed the congregation to pay its staff during a time of great uncertainty. When giving to the church turned out to be higher than expected, he said, church leaders decided to pay it back.

We thought, here’s a testimony to the generosity of our people.

Pastor Paul Spilker. Photo courtesy of College Park Church
Paul Spilker. Courtesy: College Park Church

Spilker and other leaders of churches that repaid the loans said it was the right thing for their church. But they understand why other groups made different decisions.

To qualify for loan forgiveness, churches and other organizations had to certify that there was significant economic uncertainty when they applied for the loan — which was the case for nearly every for-profit and nonprofit organization in the United States.

There are some indications that congregations avoided major fiscal decline during the COVID-19 pandemic. More than half of the congregations in a fall 2020 study from Lake Institute on Faith and Giving at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis said that giving had either stayed the same or gone up. Few (14%) said they had to lay off staff, while two-thirds applied for a PPP loan.

In their loan application, Mars Hill asked for enough money to pay the salaries of 24 staffers. All told, the PPP loans to religious groups were meant to pay salaries of 1.5 million staffers, with half of them at groups that borrowed more than $150,000.

Allison Gill, vice president of American Atheists, said she appreciates religious groups that paid back their PPP loans rather than asking for forgiveness.

It shows an appreciation for the separation of church and state.

Still, American Atheists and other secular groups expressed concern over the program — especially if religious groups applied for forgiveness. That essentially turned loans into grants to pay the salaries of religious leaders, said Nick Little, vice president and general counsel of the Center for Inquiry, another atheist group.

Little said that having government funds paying the salaries of pastors, rabbis, priests and other leaders was “constitutionally troubling.”

The 2012 National Congregations Study found that about 25% of congregations had mortgages or other debt. Congregations that described themselves as more conservative (22.3%) were less likely to say they had debt than those that were more liberal (43.9%).

Uncertainty for many religious organizations, meanwhile, is far from over. At Mars Hill, Sanders said that the staff remains intact, and as the pandemic has eased, about 300 people now show up for weekend services. But others continue to attend only online. That makes long-term planning difficult.

The hard part is that we don’t know how many people we have in our church anymore.

Still, he is thankful the PPP loan was repaid.

I am really proud to be part of a church that said, ‘No, we don’t need it — we are going to give it back.’


AUTHOR COMMENTARY

“It shows an appreciation for the separation of church and state.” -What in the world are you talking about? Separation of church and state? Uhh… hey lady: these churches WENT to the STATE to get money to go deeper in debt, after the STATE told the churches to SHUT THEIR DOORS! But these are the typical Laodecian blindness and absurdities.

[14] And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; [15] I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. [16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. [17] Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: [18] I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

Revelation 3:14-18

This report tries to spin it and talk about the small amount of church buildings that did or are in the process of paying the loans back, but there are clearly plenty of them that are not – while still receiving plenty of donations and tithes – allowing the hirelings to live high on the hog, while remaining in deep debt like practically all other Americans and businesses.

And what that one one atheist group said is totally correct, and furthers why atheism is so rampant in the first place, because these atheists can see right through the hypocrisy and fruitlessness of these so-called “Christians;” who live, look, talk, and act like them (the atheists and humanists), who carry around dozens of contradicting “Bibles” that are all said to be “God-breathed.” The list of hypocrisies are endless. I certainly do not condone atheism, but many atheists nowadays have way more morals and common sense than these “Christians” do. This is why I have come up with my facetious little proverb: “The clown and comedian are the wise men of a fallen land.”

Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Romans 13:8

The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.

Proverbs 22:7

Again, how on God’s green earth can one say that there is separation of church and state, when the church is indebted to the state?! And that is just one singular example: these places have been run and owned by the government for a LONG time.

Not only that, this report noted the continuing trend of more church buildings losing their members. Not much of a surprise. But, this will give further credence and support for this antichrist metaverse system.

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[7] Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock? [8] Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also? [9] For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? [10] Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope. (1 Corinthians 9:7-10).

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3 Comments

  • Looking at Joel Osteens Rock Arena I MEAN UM, church, good grief! That must be a third of Houston’s population. Houston is over 4 million people.
    The proud look of that hireling Philip Robertson: what are you so smug about? You’re a pauper owing and being owned by the government!
    I’m so happy for this report that the PPP loans are finally biting these hirelings back in the butt. They live high on the hog and act no different than some Beverly Hills brat who spends $10,000 on shopping sprees, they make Snoop Dogg look modest!
    These atheists need to repent and get a King James Bible believer to witness to and effigy them, but by that same note, they’ve got enough common sense and enough of a moral character to see through these fakers like a screen door.

  • Effigy? I meant to put EDIFY them. These atheists need a King James Bible believer to witness to and edify them, these atheists, pronto! They’re on the right track about church buildings, but they’re still in dire need of salvation and a King James Bible!

    These church buildings getting their PPP loans and they act like they won the lottery, until the loan sharks come by knocking at their door saying to pastor McDuck “pay up.”

  • Part of the set-up. Why would anyone think those devil-possessed, familiar spirit directed hirelings attached to both Rome & her spirit, & the State, would be any different from atheists, their ‘foundations’ & ‘non-spiritual’ god-of-this world NGO’s with the same spirit of self-righteousness & superiority & craft? That they would behave any differently from their ‘liberal’ counterparts, co-conspirators? It’s like the ‘white’ and ‘black’ craft all over again, to foster division & hatred, puff self-righteousness & self-justification for doing evil that good might come.

    They are playing with the ‘news’ & the deep fakes are increasing.

    Sites have changed their reporting, & particularly how & who can comment….so they are blocking actual reports & comments while putting up really off-the-wall & insanely skewed & inflammatory ‘comments’. Something’s up with that.

    Some of the stuff on that concert in Houston looked really fake, & the ‘comments’ were supremacist & totally bizarre. They are purposely trying to polarize & pushing fake theatrical ‘demonic’ stuff giving cover to the real craft & making heroes of Rome & Romish type ‘Christians’….while the so-called ‘left’ are doing the same. It’s really ramped up the past week of or.

    I realize that’s nothing new….but I’ve watched this stuff, & purposely subscribed to opposing ‘side’ forums for a long time, & all through covid….and I’ve never seen it this blatant & obvious. People without the Lord & the sure word are being pushed to the breaking point, & they have no armor.

    I suppose as the ‘vaccine’ related deaths ramp up….they’ll play this sort of distracting game, & false flags. People probably died, but the concert video & the people fleeing did not match….the video that ABC13 Houston put up of people running out the gate, supposedly ‘stampeding’ looked like a bad b-grade movie. Most of them were running, but not as though terrified or in fear of their lives. Some were even sort of laughing, like a high school where somebody staged a walkout & no one really cares, but they’re getting out of school. Or, somebody paid them to run out the gate.

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